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No demarcation FX-octal woe blues



 
 
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Old November 10th 18, 09:38 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Flasherly[_2_]
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Default No demarcation FX-octal woe blues

Bought mine, an octal Fx when the Ryzen fireworks went off, a bomb by
industry standards, at least for octals. I swear to God, they're
getting all teary-eyed about this, people who know better talking
about buying them for the vintage retro-aspect, and such, unresistably
drawn back into a sheer haze of mind-blowing value.

Now that they're a third less. No, but wait, there's more and that's
not quite true:

AMD FX-9590 8-core 4.7 GHz Socket AM3+ 220W Black Edition Desktop
Processor FD9590FHHKWOF ($80-ish)

That's what costs now what I paid -- with winter coming on I suppose I
could regret another space heater, dedicated fuse box to be sure

AMD FD8350FRHKBOX FX-8350 FX-Series 8-Core Black Edition Processor
$64.99
Frequency: 4.0/4.2GHZ (Base/Overdrive)
Power Wattage: 125W

I paid the 9590 price on instead an E-suffix series @ 3.2-3.8 "Turbo"
spread & 95-watt. Still, I must confess, a sullen 5Ghz does tend
weigh in for one $80 Beastie Boy.
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Old November 10th 18, 10:22 AM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Paul[_26_]
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Default No demarcation FX-octal woe blues

Flasherly wrote:
Bought mine, an octal Fx when the Ryzen fireworks went off, a bomb by
industry standards, at least for octals. I swear to God, they're
getting all teary-eyed about this, people who know better talking
about buying them for the vintage retro-aspect, and such, unresistably
drawn back into a sheer haze of mind-blowing value.

Now that they're a third less. No, but wait, there's more and that's
not quite true:

AMD FX-9590 8-core 4.7 GHz Socket AM3+ 220W Black Edition Desktop
Processor FD9590FHHKWOF ($80-ish)

That's what costs now what I paid -- with winter coming on I suppose I
could regret another space heater, dedicated fuse box to be sure

AMD FD8350FRHKBOX FX-8350 FX-Series 8-Core Black Edition Processor
$64.99
Frequency: 4.0/4.2GHZ (Base/Overdrive)
Power Wattage: 125W

I paid the 9590 price on instead an E-suffix series @ 3.2-3.8 "Turbo"
spread & 95-watt. Still, I must confess, a sullen 5Ghz does tend
weigh in for one $80 Beastie Boy.


https://www.anandtech.com/show/13535...res-cascade-ap

48-Cores Per CPU
LGA5903 socket
12 DDR4 DRAM channels
possibly 350W power

Keep your eye on the delete-bin when those are available.

Imagine how many levers you'll need to press, to get the
cover on the socket. A ton of force.

Paul
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Old November 10th 18, 03:33 PM posted to alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Flasherly[_2_]
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Default No demarcation FX-octal woe blues

On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 04:22:54 -0500, Paul
wrote:

48-Cores Per CPU
LGA5903 socket
12 DDR4 DRAM channels
possibly 350W power

Keep your eye on the delete-bin when those are available.

Imagine how many levers you'll need to press, to get the
cover on the socket. A ton of force.


I've seen mention of 16-core Intels being available, unless I didn't.
Happening fast, though, because it wasn't so long to have bought my
octal, and an Intel octal may not also have been available then.
Multicores aren't going anywhere near so slow as optimized code
prediction efforts.

But that's all showboating for where the dirt gets grittiest -- in
absurd values for AMD $60-entry octal FX-series. Nutty, too, as the
value points are apt to be derived from overclocking them, at
relatively huge power draws, for a skewed advantage -- across all
they're worth on all cores going full-bore.

Even my "energy" series at 95-watt does some of that stuff. I've
forgotten the subtleties to one mad-scientist's review testbed, or
what sorts of power supply and extraordinary cooling was involved, but
vague figures along 175- to 250-watts draw at 4.5GHz come to mind. As
I said my E-series runs stock at 3.2GHz for the time being with it's
Turbo mode turned off.

One really does need to deploy a *NIX baseline for a developer's
platform, along with congruent Windows support within, either for W7
or XP, to do a "beyond the quad" concept justice. Software always has
been a hobbled nemesis and limiter of hardware, if not moreover true
now than anytime before.

These computers are a throwback to a cowboy's shirt-pocket AM radio
from the 1950's. Except, in actuality, they're battery AM stereo next
to budget giveaways, with an upper-bandwidth of 50KHz, for a couple of
radio stations left on a East/West Internet split. I've been watching
Amazon and their dedicated cloud handhelds, and they are seriously
approaching giving them away, truly, at a minimum for their profiling
value as data-harvesters.
 




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