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  #11  
Old November 23rd 07, 09:07 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.acer
Han
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Posts: 28
Default Rearranging Hard disk

Betty Boop wrote in news:47472793$0$19982$547a23d3
@news.telebyte.nl:

Mocht mijn Engels ‚n mijn technische kennis en
inzicht in computers en systemen inderdaad zo
slecht zijn als ik zelf vermoed en dat d*t de
reden is dat het w‚rkelijke punt wat ik duidelijk
wil hebben, niet beantwoord wordt, wil ik het ook
nog wel in het Nederlands terug vertalen.
In ieder geval nogmaals bedankt voor je reactie.
Het doet mij ‚cht wat (big smile!) een reactie te
krijgen van een (voormalig) landgenoot, zo ver weg!

Sorry dat die "e's' met accent comma's zijn geworden ...
Je engels is prima naar mijn mening! En met als voorbehoedsmiddel
grinnik een goed/goede image van de HD, zou ik gewoon aan de gang gaan
met die re-partioning. En gooi die Acer hidden partition maar weg, die kan
je nu toch niet meer gebruiken denk ik. Maar ik zou vooraf de eRecovery
nog wel gebruiken om de system files en de drivers op CD of DVD te zetten.
Je weet nooit!

groetjes vanuit http://radburn.org!
--
Best regards
Han
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  #12  
Old November 24th 07, 04:23 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.acer
doS[_5_]
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Posts: 9
Default Rearranging Hard disk

Ok, heres the deal:
If you have a partion now that has say,40gb of info on it, and you make a
ghost image of that 40gb.if you then shrink your c drive, to lets say, 25gb,
when you restore(ghost of the 40gb) you will have an issue.

"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
Han wrote:
Betty Boop wrote in
:
doS wrote:
I dont think you can resize the part using an xp cd....

"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
doS wrote:
use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and
carry on...


"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
Hi you all,
I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005
SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two
partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb.
[/]
I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of
about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\
partition. D:\ will be unchanged.

I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does
anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will
work??
Angelique
doS, thanks for your reaction and advise.
For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However,
instead of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange
the C:\ partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another
version of XP, XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a
totally new install because than I can format it first in the right
measurement, break off the installation after format and than
reinstall the machine's Media Edition. The formatting of the new E:\
I can make through the system. You agree, is it good thinking or
will I mess up?
What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with
that smaller space to install???
The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also
be restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me,
because after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the
backup and restore function of the machine is not working anymore so
I am totally dependent on my Norton Ghost application.
So,... if not, I really won't carry on!

Could you please help me out with this as well?

Angelique

Besides the technical problem I'm dealing with, there may also be some
sort of a language problem here.
I apologize for the fact that English has never been my mothers
language, so really, I have to try very hard to translate from my own
language (Dutch) into the beautiful English language. Besides that, I
also am not a technical wonder, computers concerning.
All and all, your answer for me, is a bit short. Would you please be so
kind and be something more specific. It would matter a lot to me.

Angelique


I think that the eRecovery approach will get you the last configuration
that you saved, OR, it will get you the original system as you purchased
it.

I see several options:

FIRST
Get some temporary file cleaner (I use ATF Cleaner, got it through
MajorGeeks). This might free up a lot of space. Then get a registry
cleaner and reorganizer. This may clean up more and free up more space.

SECOND
Purchase Partition Magic or something other partitioning software that
can resize your partitions without losing any files. Just use it as is,
IF your system works now.

THIRD
Back up all your data files (migh not be easy).
Then just install the operating system that you desire after:
a) making sure you have all the software installation disks you will
need, and
b) making sure that you will have all the drivers needed for your
hardware. (that is the reason I have yet to try putting XP on this Vista
Acer Aspire 3680 - I don't think I will have all the drivers, especially
the wireless).
c) erasing the hard drive completely.


Ik hoop dat ik je hiermee heb geholpen. M'n nederlands is wat ouderwets
aangezien ik in 1969 als volwassene naar de VS ging.

Groetjes!


Dear Han, beste Han,

Hi!!!
Nee hoor, niets van te merken!! Alles is goed te volgen zoals je het
omschrijft.
Joh, wat een toeval zeg! Hoop dat het met jou én je dierbaren goed gaat
daar in The States!

Thanks for your reply, but I think you didn't read my very first posting
with the full explanation.
Let me try to put it this way.

PC is a ACER desktop with a preinstalled Media Edition 2005 XP version
Hard disk is 250 gb devided into 2 partitions of each 113 gb. Partition
C:\ with (only) the systemfiles and the other applications (aprox. 13 gb)
and a D: with (only) my personal data on it.
ACER works with an eRecovery service. It only works when the goalpartition
is in FAT32. Recently I formatted this into NTFS (for more safety) so,
eRecovery isn't working anymore for making backups and I do not have any
eRecovery backups of the system. However,... it is still possible to use
eRecovery to reinstall the preinstalled Windows Media Center. The one on a
hidden partition.
Instead of using eRecovery for making backups of the system (C:\ part) I
now use the Norton Ghost Backup application. I got several (ghost) system
backups on the D: drive that were made while the system was working fine.
That's the situation now!

What I want to do is to devide the complete C-drive (113 gb total of which
only 13 gb in use by the system and 100 gb is NOT) into a smaller C: drive
of about 25 gb and make a new drive (E with the rest of the remaining
bytes.

The only things I really need to know is WHEN I DO make C: smaller
(!!!!), is:
a) When something *might* go wrong, will eRecovery still putting back the
complete Windows Media Ed. 2005 as it came from the factory on the NOW
SMALLER! C: drive???? and
b) When eRecovery ISN'T working properly anymore , is it THAN still
possible to RESTORE one of the GHOST backups onto the SMALLER C:-drive?
And will it work, of course!!

So the main question is not HOW to devide the C: into two new partitions
(that's of a lesser importance!!!) but *when* I do, will eRecovery put
back my original Windows version onto the *smaller* C:\drive AND/OR will
Norton GHOST restore my (original and *bigger*) backups from the 'old'
C:drive on the new *smaller* C:\ drive.

Mocht mijn Engels én mijn technische kennis en inzicht in computers en
systemen inderdaad zo slecht zijn als ik zelf vermoed en dat dát de reden
is dat het wérkelijke punt wat ik duidelijk wil hebben, niet beantwoord
wordt, wil ik het ook nog wel in het Nederlands terug vertalen.
In ieder geval nogmaals bedankt voor je reactie. Het doet mij écht wat
(big smile!) een reactie te krijgen van een (voormalig) landgenoot, zo ver
weg!

Angelique



  #13  
Old November 24th 07, 04:36 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.acer
Wandering
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 34
Default Rearranging Hard disk

It depends on how much data is in the 40 GB image. Usually the image program
lets you set the size of the partition it is restoring to.

You can't fit 40GB into 25GB, as I am sure you are aware. If the image file
is 40GB it will need a larger partition to restore into, assuming it was
compressed in imaging.

Good luck


"doS" wrote in message
...
Ok, heres the deal:
If you have a partion now that has say,40gb of info on it, and you make a
ghost image of that 40gb.if you then shrink your c drive, to lets say,
25gb, when you restore(ghost of the 40gb) you will have an issue.

"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
Han wrote:
Betty Boop wrote in
:
doS wrote:
I dont think you can resize the part using an xp cd....

"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
doS wrote:
use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and
carry on...


"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
Hi you all,
I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005
SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two
partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb.
[/]
I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of
about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\
partition. D:\ will be unchanged.

I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does
anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will
work??
Angelique
doS, thanks for your reaction and advise.
For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However,
instead of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange
the C:\ partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another
version of XP, XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a
totally new install because than I can format it first in the right
measurement, break off the installation after format and than
reinstall the machine's Media Edition. The formatting of the new E:\
I can make through the system. You agree, is it good thinking or
will I mess up?
What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with
that smaller space to install???
The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also
be restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me,
because after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the
backup and restore function of the machine is not working anymore so
I am totally dependent on my Norton Ghost application.
So,... if not, I really won't carry on!

Could you please help me out with this as well?

Angelique

Besides the technical problem I'm dealing with, there may also be some
sort of a language problem here.
I apologize for the fact that English has never been my mothers
language, so really, I have to try very hard to translate from my own
language (Dutch) into the beautiful English language. Besides that, I
also am not a technical wonder, computers concerning.
All and all, your answer for me, is a bit short. Would you please be so
kind and be something more specific. It would matter a lot to me.

Angelique

I think that the eRecovery approach will get you the last configuration
that you saved, OR, it will get you the original system as you purchased
it.

I see several options:

FIRST
Get some temporary file cleaner (I use ATF Cleaner, got it through
MajorGeeks). This might free up a lot of space. Then get a registry
cleaner and reorganizer. This may clean up more and free up more space.

SECOND
Purchase Partition Magic or something other partitioning software that
can resize your partitions without losing any files. Just use it as is,
IF your system works now.

THIRD
Back up all your data files (migh not be easy).
Then just install the operating system that you desire after:
a) making sure you have all the software installation disks you will
need, and
b) making sure that you will have all the drivers needed for your
hardware. (that is the reason I have yet to try putting XP on this
Vista Acer Aspire 3680 - I don't think I will have all the drivers,
especially the wireless).
c) erasing the hard drive completely.


Ik hoop dat ik je hiermee heb geholpen. M'n nederlands is wat ouderwets
aangezien ik in 1969 als volwassene naar de VS ging.

Groetjes!


Dear Han, beste Han,

Hi!!!
Nee hoor, niets van te merken!! Alles is goed te volgen zoals je het
omschrijft.
Joh, wat een toeval zeg! Hoop dat het met jou én je dierbaren goed gaat
daar in The States!

Thanks for your reply, but I think you didn't read my very first posting
with the full explanation.
Let me try to put it this way.

PC is a ACER desktop with a preinstalled Media Edition 2005 XP version
Hard disk is 250 gb devided into 2 partitions of each 113 gb. Partition
C:\ with (only) the systemfiles and the other applications (aprox. 13 gb)
and a D: with (only) my personal data on it.
ACER works with an eRecovery service. It only works when the
goalpartition is in FAT32. Recently I formatted this into NTFS (for more
safety) so, eRecovery isn't working anymore for making backups and I do
not have any eRecovery backups of the system. However,... it is still
possible to use eRecovery to reinstall the preinstalled Windows Media
Center. The one on a hidden partition.
Instead of using eRecovery for making backups of the system (C:\ part) I
now use the Norton Ghost Backup application. I got several (ghost) system
backups on the D: drive that were made while the system was working fine.
That's the situation now!

What I want to do is to devide the complete C-drive (113 gb total of
which only 13 gb in use by the system and 100 gb is NOT) into a smaller
C: drive of about 25 gb and make a new drive (E with the rest of the
remaining bytes.

The only things I really need to know is WHEN I DO make C: smaller
(!!!!), is:
a) When something *might* go wrong, will eRecovery still putting back the
complete Windows Media Ed. 2005 as it came from the factory on the NOW
SMALLER! C: drive???? and
b) When eRecovery ISN'T working properly anymore , is it THAN still
possible to RESTORE one of the GHOST backups onto the SMALLER C:-drive?
And will it work, of course!!

So the main question is not HOW to devide the C: into two new partitions
(that's of a lesser importance!!!) but *when* I do, will eRecovery put
back my original Windows version onto the *smaller* C:\drive AND/OR will
Norton GHOST restore my (original and *bigger*) backups from the 'old'
C:drive on the new *smaller* C:\ drive.

Mocht mijn Engels én mijn technische kennis en inzicht in computers en
systemen inderdaad zo slecht zijn als ik zelf vermoed en dat dát de reden
is dat het wérkelijke punt wat ik duidelijk wil hebben, niet beantwoord
wordt, wil ik het ook nog wel in het Nederlands terug vertalen.
In ieder geval nogmaals bedankt voor je reactie. Het doet mij écht wat
(big smile!) een reactie te krijgen van een (voormalig) landgenoot, zo
ver weg!

Angelique




  #14  
Old November 25th 07, 01:08 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.acer
doS[_5_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 9
Default Rearranging Hard disk

If you have a partion now that has say,*40gb of info* on it,



"Wandering" wrote in message
...
It depends on how much data is in the 40 GB image. Usually the image
program lets you set the size of the partition it is restoring to.

You can't fit 40GB into 25GB, as I am sure you are aware. If the image
file is 40GB it will need a larger partition to restore into, assuming it
was compressed in imaging.

Good luck


"doS" wrote in message
...
Ok, heres the deal:
If you have a partion now that has say,40gb of info on it, and you make a
ghost image of that 40gb.if you then shrink your c drive, to lets say,
25gb, when you restore(ghost of the 40gb) you will have an issue.

"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
Han wrote:
Betty Boop wrote in
:
doS wrote:
I dont think you can resize the part using an xp cd....

"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
doS wrote:
use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and
carry on...


"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
Hi you all,
I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005
SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two
partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb.
[/]
I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of
about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\
partition. D:\ will be unchanged.

I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does
anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will
work??
Angelique
doS, thanks for your reaction and advise.
For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However,
instead of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange
the C:\ partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another
version of XP, XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a
totally new install because than I can format it first in the right
measurement, break off the installation after format and than
reinstall the machine's Media Edition. The formatting of the new E:\
I can make through the system. You agree, is it good thinking or
will I mess up?
What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with
that smaller space to install???
The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also
be restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me,
because after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the
backup and restore function of the machine is not working anymore so
I am totally dependent on my Norton Ghost application.
So,... if not, I really won't carry on!

Could you please help me out with this as well?

Angelique

Besides the technical problem I'm dealing with, there may also be some
sort of a language problem here.
I apologize for the fact that English has never been my mothers
language, so really, I have to try very hard to translate from my own
language (Dutch) into the beautiful English language. Besides that, I
also am not a technical wonder, computers concerning.
All and all, your answer for me, is a bit short. Would you please be
so kind and be something more specific. It would matter a lot to me.

Angelique

I think that the eRecovery approach will get you the last configuration
that you saved, OR, it will get you the original system as you
purchased it.

I see several options:

FIRST
Get some temporary file cleaner (I use ATF Cleaner, got it through
MajorGeeks). This might free up a lot of space. Then get a registry
cleaner and reorganizer. This may clean up more and free up more
space.

SECOND
Purchase Partition Magic or something other partitioning software that
can resize your partitions without losing any files. Just use it as
is, IF your system works now.

THIRD
Back up all your data files (migh not be easy).
Then just install the operating system that you desire after:
a) making sure you have all the software installation disks you will
need, and
b) making sure that you will have all the drivers needed for your
hardware. (that is the reason I have yet to try putting XP on this
Vista Acer Aspire 3680 - I don't think I will have all the drivers,
especially the wireless).
c) erasing the hard drive completely.


Ik hoop dat ik je hiermee heb geholpen. M'n nederlands is wat
ouderwets aangezien ik in 1969 als volwassene naar de VS ging.

Groetjes!

Dear Han, beste Han,

Hi!!!
Nee hoor, niets van te merken!! Alles is goed te volgen zoals je het
omschrijft.
Joh, wat een toeval zeg! Hoop dat het met jou én je dierbaren goed gaat
daar in The States!

Thanks for your reply, but I think you didn't read my very first posting
with the full explanation.
Let me try to put it this way.

PC is a ACER desktop with a preinstalled Media Edition 2005 XP version
Hard disk is 250 gb devided into 2 partitions of each 113 gb. Partition
C:\ with (only) the systemfiles and the other applications (aprox. 13
gb) and a D: with (only) my personal data on it.
ACER works with an eRecovery service. It only works when the
goalpartition is in FAT32. Recently I formatted this into NTFS (for more
safety) so, eRecovery isn't working anymore for making backups and I do
not have any eRecovery backups of the system. However,... it is still
possible to use eRecovery to reinstall the preinstalled Windows Media
Center. The one on a hidden partition.
Instead of using eRecovery for making backups of the system (C:\ part) I
now use the Norton Ghost Backup application. I got several (ghost)
system backups on the D: drive that were made while the system was
working fine. That's the situation now!

What I want to do is to devide the complete C-drive (113 gb total of
which only 13 gb in use by the system and 100 gb is NOT) into a smaller
C: drive of about 25 gb and make a new drive (E with the rest of the
remaining bytes.

The only things I really need to know is WHEN I DO make C: smaller
(!!!!), is:
a) When something *might* go wrong, will eRecovery still putting back
the complete Windows Media Ed. 2005 as it came from the factory on the
NOW SMALLER! C: drive???? and
b) When eRecovery ISN'T working properly anymore , is it THAN still
possible to RESTORE one of the GHOST backups onto the SMALLER C:-drive?
And will it work, of course!!

So the main question is not HOW to devide the C: into two new partitions
(that's of a lesser importance!!!) but *when* I do, will eRecovery put
back my original Windows version onto the *smaller* C:\drive AND/OR will
Norton GHOST restore my (original and *bigger*) backups from the 'old'
C:drive on the new *smaller* C:\ drive.

Mocht mijn Engels én mijn technische kennis en inzicht in computers en
systemen inderdaad zo slecht zijn als ik zelf vermoed en dat dát de
reden is dat het wérkelijke punt wat ik duidelijk wil hebben, niet
beantwoord wordt, wil ik het ook nog wel in het Nederlands terug
vertalen.
In ieder geval nogmaals bedankt voor je reactie. Het doet mij écht wat
(big smile!) een reactie te krijgen van een (voormalig) landgenoot, zo
ver weg!

Angelique






  #15  
Old November 25th 07, 01:16 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.acer
Betty Boop
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 7
Default Rearranging Hard disk

Han wrote:
Betty Boop wrote in
:

doS wrote:
I dont think you can resize the part using an xp cd....

"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
doS wrote:
use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and
carry on...


"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
Hi you all,
I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005
SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two
partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb.
[/]
I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of
about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\
partition. D:\ will be unchanged.

I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does
anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will
work??

Angelique
doS, thanks for your reaction and advise.
For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However,
instead of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange
the C:\ partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another
version of XP, XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a
totally new install because than I can format it first in the right
measurement, break off the installation after format and than
reinstall the machine's Media Edition. The formatting of the new E:\
I can make through the system. You agree, is it good thinking or
will I mess up?

What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with
that smaller space to install???
The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also
be restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me,
because after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the
backup and restore function of the machine is not working anymore so
I am totally dependent on my Norton Ghost application.
So,... if not, I really won't carry on!

Could you please help me out with this as well?

Angelique

Besides the technical problem I'm dealing with,
there may also be some sort of a language problem
here.
I apologize for the fact that English has never
been my mothers language, so really, I have to try
very hard to translate from my own language
(Dutch) into the beautiful English language.
Besides that, I also am not a technical wonder,
computers concerning.
All and all, your answer for me, is a bit short.
Would you please be so kind and be something more
specific. It would matter a lot to me.

Angelique


I think that the eRecovery approach will get you the last configuration
that you saved, OR, it will get you the original system as you purchased
it.

I see several options:

FIRST
Get some temporary file cleaner (I use ATF Cleaner, got it through
MajorGeeks). This might free up a lot of space. Then get a registry
cleaner and reorganizer. This may clean up more and free up more space.

SECOND
Purchase Partition Magic or something other partitioning software that can
resize your partitions without losing any files. Just use it as is, IF
your system works now.

THIRD
Back up all your data files (migh not be easy).
Then just install the operating system that you desire after:
a) making sure you have all the software installation disks you will need,
and
b) making sure that you will have all the drivers needed for your hardware.
(that is the reason I have yet to try putting XP on this Vista Acer Aspire
3680 - I don't think I will have all the drivers, especially the wireless).
c) erasing the hard drive completely.


Ik hoop dat ik je hiermee heb geholpen. M'n nederlands is wat ouderwets
aangezien ik in 1969 als volwassene naar de VS ging.

Groetjes!


Dear Han, beste Han,

Hi!!!
Nee hoor, niets van te merken!! Alles is goed te
volgen zoals je het omschrijft.
Joh, wat een toeval zeg! Hoop dat het met jou én
je dierbaren goed gaat daar in The States!

Thanks for your reply, but I think you didn't read
my very first posting with the full explanation.
Let me try to put it this way.

PC is a ACER desktop with a preinstalled Media
Edition 2005 XP version
Hard disk is 250 gb devided into 2 partitions of
each 113 gb. Partition C:\ with (only) the
systemfiles and the other applications (aprox. 13
gb) and a D: with (only) my personal data on it.
ACER works with an eRecovery service. It only
works when the goalpartition is in FAT32. Recently
I formatted this into NTFS (for more safety) so,
eRecovery isn't working anymore for making backups
and I do not have any eRecovery backups of the
system. However,... it is still possible to use
eRecovery to reinstall the preinstalled Windows
Media Center. The one on a hidden partition.
Instead of using eRecovery for making backups of
the system (C:\ part) I now use the Norton Ghost
Backup application. I got several (ghost) system
backups on the D: drive that were made while the
system was working fine. That's the situation now!

What I want to do is to devide the complete
C-drive (113 gb total of which only 13 gb in use
by the system and 100 gb is NOT) into a smaller C:
drive of about 25 gb and make a new drive (E
with the rest of the remaining bytes.

The only things I really need to know is WHEN I
DO make C: smaller (!!!!), is:
a) When something *might* go wrong, will eRecovery
still putting back the complete Windows Media Ed.
2005 as it came from the factory on the NOW
SMALLER! C: drive???? and
b) When eRecovery ISN'T working properly anymore
, is it THAN still possible to RESTORE one of the
GHOST backups onto the SMALLER C:-drive? And will
it work, of course!!

So the main question is not HOW to devide the C:
into two new partitions (that's of a lesser
importance!!!) but *when* I do, will eRecovery put
back my original Windows version onto the
*smaller* C:\drive AND/OR will Norton GHOST
restore my (original and *bigger*) backups from
the 'old' C:drive on the new *smaller* C:\ drive.

Mocht mijn Engels én mijn technische kennis en
inzicht in computers en systemen inderdaad zo
slecht zijn als ik zelf vermoed en dat dát de
reden is dat het wérkelijke punt wat ik duidelijk
wil hebben, niet beantwoord wordt, wil ik het ook
nog wel in het Nederlands terug vertalen.
In ieder geval nogmaals bedankt voor je reactie.
Het doet mij écht wat (big smile!) een reactie te
krijgen van een (voormalig) landgenoot, zo ver weg!

Angelique
  #16  
Old November 25th 07, 01:45 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.acer
Betty Boop
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So the main question is not HOW to devide the C: into two new partitions
(that's of a lesser importance!!!) but *when* I do, will eRecovery put
back my original Windows version onto the *smaller* C:\drive AND/OR will
Norton GHOST restore my (original and *bigger*) backups from the 'old'
C:drive on the new *smaller* C:\ drive.

Mocht mijn Engels én mijn technische kennis en inzicht in computers en
systemen inderdaad zo slecht zijn als ik zelf vermoed en dat dát de reden
is dat het wérkelijke punt wat ik duidelijk wil hebben, niet beantwoord
wordt, wil ik het ook nog wel in het Nederlands terug vertalen.
In ieder geval nogmaals bedankt voor je reactie. Het doet mij écht wat
(big smile!) een reactie te krijgen van een (voormalig) landgenoot, zo ver
weg!

Angelique


doS wrote:
Ok, heres the deal:
If you have a partion now that has say,40gb of info on it, and you make a
ghost image of that 40gb.if you then shrink your c drive, to lets say, 25gb,
when you restore(ghost of the 40gb) you will have an issue.



*Really!!!*

Sorry guys, I give up!!!!!!!

Have a nice day, or whatever
  #17  
Old November 25th 07, 01:47 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.acer
Wandering
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I think I understand better now.

Using XP Disk Manager, you can do what you want.

Shrink C: and Expand D: Both a few mouse clicks.

If you have a Ghost image of your entire operating system C: you can install
it on the smaller partition: It will tell you how much it needs. Figure
about 20GB for your operating system. On the other hand, there should be no
reason to do that, as shrinking won't lose any data, but it's there if you
need it.

If you have an image like that, you really have no use for the hidden
partition and you can forget recovery altogether.

I don't know enough about recovery to tell you if it will install into a
smaller partition. I took it off my machine when I installed Acronis True
Image.

Good luck.

"doS" wrote in message
...
Partiton magic is the best way to go.

"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
doS wrote:
use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and
carry on...


"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
Hi you all,
I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005 SP2.
In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two partitions (C:\
and D:\) each 113 gb.

[/]
I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of about
20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\ partition.
D:\ will be unchanged.

I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does anybody
know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will work??

Angelique


doS, thanks for your reaction and advise.
For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However, instead of
what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange the C:\ partition
I'm thinking of using my original CD of another version of XP, XP Home
Edition. With that CD I will start to make a totally new install because
than I can format it first in the right measurement, break off the
installation after format and than reinstall the machine's Media Edition.
The formatting of the new E:\ I can make through the system.
You agree, is it good thinking or will I mess up?

What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with that
smaller space to install???
The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also be
restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me, because
after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the backup and
restore function of the machine is not working anymore so I am totally
dependent on my Norton Ghost application.
So,... if not, I really won't carry on!

Could you please help me out with this as well?

Angelique






  #18  
Old November 25th 07, 07:24 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.acer
doS[_5_]
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you cant, for example, recovery 40 gb into 25gb...

"Wandering" wrote in message
...
I think I understand better now.

Using XP Disk Manager, you can do what you want.

Shrink C: and Expand D: Both a few mouse clicks.

If you have a Ghost image of your entire operating system C: you can
install it on the smaller partition: It will tell you how much it needs.
Figure about 20GB for your operating system. On the other hand, there
should be no reason to do that, as shrinking won't lose any data, but it's
there if you need it.

If you have an image like that, you really have no use for the hidden
partition and you can forget recovery altogether.

I don't know enough about recovery to tell you if it will install into a
smaller partition. I took it off my machine when I installed Acronis True
Image.

Good luck.

"doS" wrote in message
...
Partiton magic is the best way to go.

"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
doS wrote:
use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and
carry on...


"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
Hi you all,
I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005 SP2.
In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two partitions (C:\
and D:\) each 113 gb.
[/]
I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of about
20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\
partition.
D:\ will be unchanged.

I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does
anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will work??

Angelique


doS, thanks for your reaction and advise.
For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However, instead
of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange the C:\
partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another version of XP,
XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a totally new install
because than I can format it first in the right measurement, break off
the installation after format and than reinstall the machine's Media
Edition. The formatting of the new E:\ I can make through the system.
You agree, is it good thinking or will I mess up?

What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with that
smaller space to install???
The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also be
restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me, because
after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the backup and
restore function of the machine is not working anymore so I am totally
dependent on my Norton Ghost application.
So,... if not, I really won't carry on!

Could you please help me out with this as well?

Angelique








  #19  
Old November 25th 07, 07:25 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.acer
doS[_5_]
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Posts: 9
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Email me
]]
"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
Han wrote:
Betty Boop wrote in
:
doS wrote:
I dont think you can resize the part using an xp cd....

"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
doS wrote:
use the erecovery and make restore cds/dvds.Get partition magic and
carry on...


"Betty Boop" wrote in message
...
Hi you all,
I have an ACER Aspire L100 Desktop with Win XP Media Center 2005
SP2. In it a hard disk of aprox. 250 gb, devided into two
partitions (C:\ and D:\) each 113 gb.
[/]
I want to devide the C;\ partition in a smaller C:\ partition of
about 20 gb and format and rename the remaining gb's in a new E:\
partition. D:\ will be unchanged.

I still have to work out how, but if it would be possible, does
anybody know if I would, the *eRecovery procedure* still will
work??
Angelique
doS, thanks for your reaction and advise.
For me it's a big relief to hear that it IS possible. However,
instead of what you suggested using Partition Magic to rearrange
the C:\ partition I'm thinking of using my original CD of another
version of XP, XP Home Edition. With that CD I will start to make a
totally new install because than I can format it first in the right
measurement, break off the installation after format and than
reinstall the machine's Media Edition. The formatting of the new E:\
I can make through the system. You agree, is it good thinking or
will I mess up?
What is still not clear for me, will the eRecovery still work with
that smaller space to install???
The same question I got for my Norton Ghost backups. Could they also
be restored to the smaller C:\ ??? This is very important for me,
because after I changed the D:\ partition from FAT32 to NTFS, the
backup and restore function of the machine is not working anymore so
I am totally dependent on my Norton Ghost application.
So,... if not, I really won't carry on!

Could you please help me out with this as well?

Angelique

Besides the technical problem I'm dealing with, there may also be some
sort of a language problem here.
I apologize for the fact that English has never been my mothers
language, so really, I have to try very hard to translate from my own
language (Dutch) into the beautiful English language. Besides that, I
also am not a technical wonder, computers concerning.
All and all, your answer for me, is a bit short. Would you please be so
kind and be something more specific. It would matter a lot to me.

Angelique


I think that the eRecovery approach will get you the last configuration
that you saved, OR, it will get you the original system as you purchased
it.

I see several options:

FIRST
Get some temporary file cleaner (I use ATF Cleaner, got it through
MajorGeeks). This might free up a lot of space. Then get a registry
cleaner and reorganizer. This may clean up more and free up more space.

SECOND
Purchase Partition Magic or something other partitioning software that
can resize your partitions without losing any files. Just use it as is,
IF your system works now.

THIRD
Back up all your data files (migh not be easy).
Then just install the operating system that you desire after:
a) making sure you have all the software installation disks you will
need, and
b) making sure that you will have all the drivers needed for your
hardware. (that is the reason I have yet to try putting XP on this Vista
Acer Aspire 3680 - I don't think I will have all the drivers, especially
the wireless).
c) erasing the hard drive completely.


Ik hoop dat ik je hiermee heb geholpen. M'n nederlands is wat ouderwets
aangezien ik in 1969 als volwassene naar de VS ging.

Groetjes!


Dear Han, beste Han,

Hi!!!
Nee hoor, niets van te merken!! Alles is goed te volgen zoals je het
omschrijft.
Joh, wat een toeval zeg! Hoop dat het met jou én je dierbaren goed gaat
daar in The States!

Thanks for your reply, but I think you didn't read my very first posting
with the full explanation.
Let me try to put it this way.

PC is a ACER desktop with a preinstalled Media Edition 2005 XP version
Hard disk is 250 gb devided into 2 partitions of each 113 gb. Partition
C:\ with (only) the systemfiles and the other applications (aprox. 13 gb)
and a D: with (only) my personal data on it.
ACER works with an eRecovery service. It only works when the goalpartition
is in FAT32. Recently I formatted this into NTFS (for more safety) so,
eRecovery isn't working anymore for making backups and I do not have any
eRecovery backups of the system. However,... it is still possible to use
eRecovery to reinstall the preinstalled Windows Media Center. The one on a
hidden partition.
Instead of using eRecovery for making backups of the system (C:\ part) I
now use the Norton Ghost Backup application. I got several (ghost) system
backups on the D: drive that were made while the system was working fine.
That's the situation now!

What I want to do is to devide the complete C-drive (113 gb total of which
only 13 gb in use by the system and 100 gb is NOT) into a smaller C: drive
of about 25 gb and make a new drive (E with the rest of the remaining
bytes.

The only things I really need to know is WHEN I DO make C: smaller
(!!!!), is:
a) When something *might* go wrong, will eRecovery still putting back the
complete Windows Media Ed. 2005 as it came from the factory on the NOW
SMALLER! C: drive???? and
b) When eRecovery ISN'T working properly anymore , is it THAN still
possible to RESTORE one of the GHOST backups onto the SMALLER C:-drive?
And will it work, of course!!

So the main question is not HOW to devide the C: into two new partitions
(that's of a lesser importance!!!) but *when* I do, will eRecovery put
back my original Windows version onto the *smaller* C:\drive AND/OR will
Norton GHOST restore my (original and *bigger*) backups from the 'old'
C:drive on the new *smaller* C:\ drive.

Mocht mijn Engels én mijn technische kennis en inzicht in computers en
systemen inderdaad zo slecht zijn als ik zelf vermoed en dat dát de reden
is dat het wérkelijke punt wat ik duidelijk wil hebben, niet beantwoord
wordt, wil ik het ook nog wel in het Nederlands terug vertalen.
In ieder geval nogmaals bedankt voor je reactie. Het doet mij écht wat
(big smile!) een reactie te krijgen van een (voormalig) landgenoot, zo ver
weg!

Angelique



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Old November 25th 07, 11:15 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.acer
Betty Boop
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doS wrote:
Email me
]]



Give me one good reason why I should.
You don't listen, you can't read and even the way you communicate
is poor!

Besides that, your manners in this media are also not correct.
First of all: reactions are posted at the bottom of the thread
and seccond, posting in a newsgroup is answering in this newsgroup.

So,......
Thanks, but no thanks.
Angelique
 




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